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Has anyone ever asked to look at all the cards in the Deck before playing Blackjack to ensure all the right cards were in the Deck?

The next time I visited the Casino, Playing $10 Blackjack on a brand new shoe; I asked how many Decks of cards were being used: I was told they used 8 Decks. So I cut the shoe.about 1 Deck deep. So theoretically, I am playing with about 7 Decks of Cards. See full list on blackjack.com.au. Blackjack in and of itself is merely a deck of cards and (summarized!) you play the rules and dealer plays rules and the best outcome wins! Blackjack comes in several variants. The game can be played with 1, 2, 4, 6, and 8 decks in most casinos. Single deck blackjack tends to be shuffled often, obviously. Casino blackjack how many decksWhen my bride & I first started our career of casino blackjack how many decks going to the casinos blackjack was our game of choice. Odds of drawing a blackjack in a two-deck shoe = 4.78%. By adding a deck (and not changing any rules of the game), the casino has decreased your likelihood of drawing a blackjack by 0.05%. Remember, though, that each one of those lost blackjacks would have been a win under standard casino rules at a 3:2 payout.

An older Gentleman told me last year that he was at the Hard Rock Casino in Fort Lauderdale, FL and saw a dealer removing some 10's and Facecards from the deck and replacing them with 2's early in the morning around 5am. He approached the dealer...asked what was going on and was quickly removed by security and arrested for 'Disturbing the Peace'. He was later banned from ever returning back there.
A few weeks later; I had my fiasco of losing 20+ consecutive hands (4 separate times) in a week and also receiving an Ace in 11 consecutive hands when Doubling Down on 11 at 2 different Seminole Casinos (Hard Rock & Seminole Fort Lauderdale Casino) in Fort Lauderdale, FL
I decided to test out a hypothesis to figure out if all the 10's were truly in the deck the next time I visited the Hard Rock Casino:
The next time I visited the Casino, Playing $10 Blackjack on a brand new shoe; I asked how many Decks of cards were being used: I was told they used 8 Decks.
So I cut the shoe...about 1 Deck deep. So theoretically, I am playing with about 7 Decks of Cards.
How many cards are worth 10 points in a single Deck of Cards? 4 10's, 4 Jacks, 4 Queens, 4 Kings = 16 Total Cards valued at 10 points
How many cards are worth 10 points in 7 Decks of Cards? 16 Total Cards * 7 Decks = 112 Total Cards valued at 10 points
How many cards are worth 10 points in 8 Decks of Cards? 16 Total Cards * 8 Decks = 128 Total Cards valued at 10 points

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I counted 96 total cards worth 10 points before the Shoe ended (7 Decks).
So, you are telling me there are 32 cards (128 - 96) worth 10 points in the remaining uncut Deck (52 Cards)???

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I left immediately and advised everybody that I know to NEVER play Blackjack at any Seminole Casino.I don't see how you cutting the deck means you were playing with 7 decks. The end of the shoe is decided by the casino in most cases, and will be about about 2/3rds of the way through. I'd be surprised if they dealt 7/8ths of the way, and if they did, where you placed the cut card should have zero bearing.
2/3rd of 128 = 85.333Quote by only1choice on April 29, 2012:

I couldn't find the answer to this question, will my astute comrades please break down the percentages for me. Last nite was difficult but was able to come back after about 5 hours. Throughout the night everytime I doubled on 11 I pulled an ace, 7 times in a row unbelievable!. Howevever I was winning a high percentage of the regular hands which included doubling on ten versus ten 7 of ten times. This is the first time I ever doubled on that combination. Please give me analysis of this play.
As always thanks in advance.

My response to only1choice's quote on April 29, 2012:

Finally!!! This is an Anomaly!
Sorry about your loss but I share with your pain. Last year...I went through a streak in 2 days of pulling an ACE after Doubling on 11 (11 times in a row) Nobody that I told believed me. They said I was having 'selective memory'. I am happy someone can have a similar story to tell.
I also lost 20 hands in a row; 4 separate times in ONE week last year. This included changing shoes, different dealers, different casinos. What's the probablity of that?

i don't know about the other situations, but your claim of 'receiving an Ace in 11 consecutive hands when Doubling Down' seems to imply that the shoe is rich in aces, and thats good for you.

Per my signature 'It's not whether you make a good or bad bet; it's whether or not you win.', I do not care about a Deck being rich in Aces, 10's, etc 'being good for me'.....the only thing that matters to me at the end of EACH gambling session is whether I won or lost $$$.As andysif said, where you cut the deck has nothing to do with how many cards are dealt before the deck is shuffled. And I also agree with andysif that it would be very unusual to get that much penetration before the shuffle.
But regarding the original question:

Has anyone ever asked to look at all the cards in the Deck before playing Blackjack to ensure all the right cards were in the Deck?

I don't know if you can ask at any random time, but if you are at the table when they change the cards (about every 8 hours), or when the table first opens, all the decks are spread for examination by players and the dealer.

receiving an Ace in 11 consecutive hands when Doubling Down on 11

Unless the dealer's had you singled out, and were all told to 'get' you, and were all skilled enough to hold that ace in abeyance until you doubled on 11, and warned the next casino that you were coming, since the bad luck streak followed you from one casino to another, the likelihood of drawing an ace to your 11 consecutive double downs on 11 was about 1 in 180 TRILLION.
As far as your initial question, it certainly is 'possible' for a casino to enrich an 8 deck shoe to benefit the casino. However, that would require at least one lowly paid employee, either a dealer or a pit boss, probably both, to take orders from a higher up to do so. If this were a common practice there, I can't imagine that there is not at least one disgruntled ex-employee who would spill the beans.

I still haven't played enough to form a definite opinion, though I will say I have won more than I have lost at the Seminole casinos.
I did have a session of about 2 dozen hands a few months back where I only won 2 hands at coconut creek, but figured I have played enough sessions that this was statistically insignificant.

The strange thing about Seminole Casinos is I have met a lot (25+ people) who have complained about ridiculous losing streaks solely on their properties. I met a guy last summer who lost 34 hands in a row playing at the Hard Rock. I have had multiple shoes where I have lost every single hand. Granted, I have always had bad luck in Blackjack but it just seems a bit extreme. I also had 2 friends visit from out of town who are very good at Blackjack and they both complained that the cards especially on Double Down situations seemed to be completely out of whack.
Obviously, I can't prove anything...but I will STRONGLY advise against anybody playing Blackjack at Seminole properties. I just have this feeling based on my experiences and what several people have told me that their game may not be 100% fair.

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However, that would require at least one lowly paid employee, either a dealer or a pit boss, probably both, to take orders from a higher up to do so. If this were a common practice there, I can't imagine that there is not at least one disgruntled ex-employee who would spill the beans.

If find it amusing how the two arguments going to apriori discredit any allegation of casino cheating are (1) they don't need it, because they are making enough without it, and (2) they can't do it, because someone would tell.

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Does not it apply to any cheating anywhere, corporate or individual? I mean, if these arguments really held water, nobody would ever cheat, would they?

If find it amusing how the two arguments going to apriori discredit any allegation of casino cheating are (1) they don't need it, because they are making enough without it, and (2) they can't do it, because someone would tell.
Does not it apply to any cheating anywhere, corporate or individual? I mean, if these arguments really held water, nobody would ever cheat, would they?

You don't tell people making $10-$15 an hour to purposely do something that if people found out, would cost your company tens of millions of dollars. Cheating is possible, but not at the dealer level.

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